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In article <***@4ax.com>,
Bob Officer <***@no-***@no-net> wrote:

>Why do you continue to Sin?

John continues to "sin" because he wants to. He's just
the typical "christian", i.e. he's a hypocrite.

[e***@no.spam]

In article <***@4ax.com>,
Bob Officer <***@no-***@no-net> wrote:

>What makes you think

Objection! Assumes fact not in evidence!

[Honest John]

***@my home wrote in message
news:***@localhost.localdomain...
> In article <***@4ax.com>,
> Bob Officer <***@no-***@no-net> wrote:
>
> >What makes you think
>
> Objection! Assumes fact not in evidence!

Objection! Assumes you have a brain, not evident!

HJ

[Honest John]

***@my home wrote in message
news:***@localhost.localdomain...
> In article <***@4ax.com>,
> Bob Officer <***@no-***@no-net> wrote:
>
> >Why do you continue to Sin?

Well, let's review:

First, God created and ideal world and put people in it. He gave them the
choice to build a relationship with Him or not. Those first people made a
mess of things.

Then humanity sort of started all over again. Noah and his family became
the only survivors of a worldwide flood. Noah's descendants had the same
choice, to build a relationship with God or not. Within a few generations,
things were a mess again.

God has remained intent on building a relationship with the people of the
world, though. He established a contractlike, covenant agreement with a man
named Abraham. Abraham promised to cherish and obey God and to teach his
family to do the same. God promised that out of those descendents would
come a Messiah, a man who would give His own life on the behalf of humanity.
That man was God in the form of a human. We Christians refer to him as
Jesus Christ.

Jesus lived and died and lived again. When He left our world, He left
behind the message that having a relationship with God requires faith in
Grace, rather than perfect living under the old Jewish laws. He left behind
a group of people who were supposed to keep this message going, of a New
Covenant whereby all people of the world can be saved by Grace through
faith.

Read and learn.

H.J.

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"Honest John" <***@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:***@centurytel.net...
>
> ***@my home wrote in message
> news:***@localhost.localdomain...
>> In article <***@4ax.com>,
>> Bob Officer <***@no-***@no-net> wrote:
>>
>> >Why do you continue to Sin?
>
> Well, let's review:
>
> First, God created and ideal world and put people in it. He gave them the
> choice to build a relationship with Him or not.

I think universe might be uterus of somebody. Planets and stars are sperms
and eggs in it. Each of us has a life and death relationship with the
universe.


>Those first people made a
> mess of things.
>
>
> Then humanity sort of started all over again. Noah and his family became
> the only survivors of a worldwide flood. Noah's descendants had the same
> choice, to build a relationship with God or not. Within a few
> generations,
> things were a mess again.

Naturally people don't agree.

>
> God has remained intent on building a relationship with the people of the
> world, though. He established a contractlike, covenant agreement with a
> man
> named Abraham. Abraham promised to cherish and obey God and to teach his
> family to do the same. God promised that out of those descendents would
> come a Messiah, a man who would give His own life on the behalf of
> humanity.
> That man was God in the form of a human. We Christians refer to him as
> Jesus Christ.

That's the part I don't understand - In Abraham time, their people were
already believing God. When God finally sent a son of David who's from the
family of Abraham, the believers of the same God became xians who don't
agree with Abraham and David's religion.


>
> Jesus lived and died and lived again. When He left our world, He left
> behind the message that having a relationship with God requires faith in
> Grace, rather than perfect living under the old Jewish laws. He left
> behind
> a group of people who were supposed to keep this message going, of a New
> Covenant whereby all people of the world can be saved by Grace through
> faith.
>
> Read and learn.
>
> H.J.
>
>

[Honest John]

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>
> "Honest John" <***@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> news:***@centurytel.net...
> >
> > ***@my home wrote in message
> > news:***@localhost.localdomain...
> >> In article <***@4ax.com>,
> >> Bob Officer <***@no-***@no-net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Why do you continue to Sin?
> >
> > Well, let's review:
> >
> > First, God created and ideal world and put people in it. He gave them
the
> > choice to build a relationship with Him or not.
>
> I think universe might be uterus of somebody. Planets and stars are sperms
> and eggs in it. Each of us has a life and death relationship with the
> universe.
>
>
> >Those first people made a
> > mess of things.
> >
> >
> > Then humanity sort of started all over again. Noah and his family
became
> > the only survivors of a worldwide flood. Noah's descendants had the
same
> > choice, to build a relationship with God or not. Within a few
> > generations,
> > things were a mess again.
>
> Naturally people don't agree.
>
> >
> > God has remained intent on building a relationship with the people of
the
> > world, though. He established a contractlike, covenant agreement with a
> > man
> > named Abraham. Abraham promised to cherish and obey God and to teach
his
> > family to do the same. God promised that out of those descendents would
> > come a Messiah, a man who would give His own life on the behalf of
> > humanity.
> > That man was God in the form of a human. We Christians refer to him as
> > Jesus Christ.
>
> That's the part I don't understand - In Abraham time, their people were
> already believing God. When God finally sent a son of David who's from the
> family of Abraham, the believers of the same God became xians who don't
> agree with Abraham and David's religion.
__________________________________________

Which son of David? I need your question to be a little more specific.

HJ









> > Jesus lived and died and lived again. When He left our world, He left
> > behind the message that having a relationship with God requires faith in
> > Grace, rather than perfect living under the old Jewish laws. He left
> > behind
> > a group of people who were supposed to keep this message going, of a New
> > Covenant whereby all people of the world can be saved by Grace through
> > faith.
> >
> > Read and learn.
> >
> > H.J.
> >
> >
>
>

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"Honest John" <***@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Real Friendly Neiborhood Vote Ranger" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:dt6ge7$7qa$***@pita.alt.net...
>>
>> "Honest John" <***@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> news:***@centurytel.net...
>> >
>> > ***@my home wrote in message
>> > news:***@localhost.localdomain...
>> >> In article <***@4ax.com>,
>> >> Bob Officer <***@no-***@no-net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Why do you continue to Sin?
>> >
>> > Well, let's review:
>> >
>> > First, God created and ideal world and put people in it. He gave them
> the
>> > choice to build a relationship with Him or not.
>>
>> I think universe might be uterus of somebody. Planets and stars are
>> sperms
>> and eggs in it. Each of us has a life and death relationship with the
>> universe.
>>
>>
>> >Those first people made a
>> > mess of things.
>> >
>> >
>> > Then humanity sort of started all over again. Noah and his family
> became
>> > the only survivors of a worldwide flood. Noah's descendants had the
> same
>> > choice, to build a relationship with God or not. Within a few
>> > generations,
>> > things were a mess again.
>>
>> Naturally people don't agree.
>>
>> >
>> > God has remained intent on building a relationship with the people of
> the
>> > world, though. He established a contractlike, covenant agreement with
>> > a
>> > man
>> > named Abraham. Abraham promised to cherish and obey God and to teach
> his
>> > family to do the same. God promised that out of those descendents
>> > would
>> > come a Messiah, a man who would give His own life on the behalf of
>> > humanity.
>> > That man was God in the form of a human. We Christians refer to him as
>> > Jesus Christ.
>>
>> That's the part I don't understand - In Abraham time, their people were
>> already believing God. When God finally sent a son of David who's from
>> the
>> family of Abraham, the believers of the same God became xians who don't
>> agree with Abraham and David's religion.
> __________________________________________
>
> Which son of David? I need your question to be a little more specific.

That's it. I can't keep up with stories unless I become so open-minded that
I accept them as facts.

>
> HJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> > Jesus lived and died and lived again. When He left our world, He left
>> > behind the message that having a relationship with God requires faith
>> > in
>> > Grace, rather than perfect living under the old Jewish laws. He left
>> > behind
>> > a group of people who were supposed to keep this message going, of a
>> > New
>> > Covenant whereby all people of the world can be saved by Grace through
>> > faith.
>> >
>> > Read and learn.
>> >
>> > H.J.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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In article <***@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <***@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

>>And your kind of thought is very popular in Hell right now.

>There's no such place.

Sure there is. We call it high school.

[mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges]

In article <***@localhost.localdomain>, ***@no.spam () wrote:

> In article <***@4ax.com>,
> Michael Gray <***@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
>
> >>And your kind of thought is very popular in Hell right now.
>
> >There's no such place.
>
> Sure there is. We call it high school.

the truth is what the truth is
if hell exists denying it wont change the truth

the gist of the argument seems to be two sides
each declaring they alone have the absolute truth
and attacking the sanity of the other side for not seeing their truth

and that rest of us are expected to side with one truth or the other

a pox on all your houses
and your false dichtomies

arf meow arf - nsa fodder
al qaeda terrorism nuclear bomb iran taliban big brother
if you meet buddha on the usenet killfile him

[e***@no.spam]

In article <ePKdncF0Q481WWvenZ2dnUVZ_s-***@centurytel.net>,
Honest John <***@centurytel.net> wrote:

>In biblical times you were either a Jew or non Jew

You also were either a moron or not a moron. So what?

[Widdershins]

Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:48:10 -0000, ***@no.spam () licked the point of
a #2 Yellow Pencil, and wrote:

>In article <ePKdncF0Q481WWvenZ2dnUVZ_s-***@centurytel.net>,
>Honest John <***@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>>In biblical times you were either a Jew or non Jew
>
>You also were either a moron or not a moron. So what?

It 's my considered opinion that Honest (dumbass) John was a compleat
idiot. YMMV



Widdy

Staff physician to the Sick, Vile ILK.

[e***@no.spam]

In article <***@4ax.com>,
Widdershins <***@liripipe.com> wrote:

>It 's my considered opinion that Honest (dumbass) John was a compleat
>idiot. YMMV

I subscribe to your opinion, kind sir.

[e***@no.spam]

In article <ZNGdnQ6dwLA8VWveRVn-***@centurytel.net>,
Honest John <***@centurytel.net> wrote:

>Quiet ko0k.

Ah, the two year old mentality.

[Widdershins]

Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:53:09 -0000, ***@no.spam () licked the point of
a #2 Yellow Pencil, and wrote:

>In article <ZNGdnQ6dwLA8VWveRVn-***@centurytel.net>,
>Honest John <***@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>>Quiet ko0k.
>
>Ah, the two year old mentality.

Is his BI on that simple phrase gone through the canellation barrier?



Widdy

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[e***@no.spam]

In article <***@4ax.com>,
Widdershins <***@liripipe.com> wrote:

>>>Quiet ko0k.

>Is his BI on that simple phrase gone through the canellation barrier?

Certainly.