GOD=G_uv A CHRISTMAS MESSAGE

[Pastor Frank]

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:06:13 GMT, "George Hammond"

[Hammond]
After all... there is always some jerk in the crowd who will
"If God can do anything; can he commit suicide?"
Well, the answer to that is.... sure he can... but he doesn't
want
to,
so he doesn't.

Oh my.
The question is a paradox; did you not notice?
If your god is immortal, it *cannot*, die.
If your god is omnipotent, it can do anything, including, die.
Your god cannot logically be both,

We are not talking about what God can or cannot do, but what God
wants
to do. Is God "immortal" by necessity of by choice? The answer of
By choice, for to God ALL things are possible. See below
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mk:10:27: And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men
it
is
impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

I had the courtesy to reply to you question, directing my reply
solely
to the newsgroup to which is was appropriate. You completely ignored
it, and here you are again stuffing your god nonsense into
sci.physics.relativity again.
Very well.
Your god is a figment of your imagination, and even it it existed it
is
totally
impotent and worthless. You pathetically thank it when you get what
you
want, never blame it for a crisis, instead attributing natural
disasters
to a different god, "Mother Nature". You are an arse-kissing lackey,
hoping
with a prayer that you'll get to live on after your death in some
imaginary
Nirvana or Shangri-la without ever lifting so much as a finger to
assist
in bringing it about.
Your god hasn't done anything yet and never will, it only exists in
your
own unthinking and incompetent mind. You babble about what was
written
some 2000 years ago in a book that was written by some scribe long
after the event, ranting about what is and is not possible, as if you
knew
the difference. You are as crazy as Hammond, but you don't know it.
At least he knows he's been hospitalized. You should be too.
I often joke about bright green flying elephants laying eggs in the
wormholes of the fabric of space, but the readers know it's a jape
and so do I. You, on the other hand, don't know the things you talk
about are just as stupid as my bright green flying elephants.
Now do me a favour, and take your nonsense away from the science
groups, we discuss the internal reflection and refraction of light
here,
not about rainbows being a sign from some imagined god who
flooded the entire Earth on a whim. Yes, there was a flood. The
ice age ended and the polar caps melted 11,000 years ago.
In short, stick up your own arse where you keep your brain.
Androcles.

Yes of course. That is all logical and true from the standpoint
that the
definition of the word "God" is a powerful and invisible old hairy
warrior
in the sky, something akin to Zeus or Odin, rewarding those he likes
and
zapping those he doesn't.
All your diatribe above doesn't apply to Christ, who was a superb
ancient philosopher and great psychologist.
Try reading the below references carefully and with understanding
and the light might yet come on.
LOL! Got himself killed, and just before he died he suddenly realised

thet was no magic from heaven to save his butt.
"Eloi, eloi, lama sabachthani.", which being translated means "Holy
Shit, it didn't work".
Of course, he did manage a couple of minor magic tricks, water into wine
and treating a few people to some reject fish sandwiches from
"Long John Silvers" when they were too stupid to bring their own lunch.
No thanks.
Androcles.

Then why are you in Religious Philosophy NGs? Are you some kind of nut,
who can't even find the right NGs to post to? Guys like you will laugh at
anyone and anything.
I will post you over to where your pals are

[Pastor Frank]

... the God of Christ is "a Spirit" (John 4:24)

& where is your evidence for any spirits, Frank?

... spirits are hard to pin down scientifically or otherwise, especially
one inhabiting Jesus and becoming visible in His actions.

So, why are you venerating a man who, according to you, isn't even
responsible for his own actions? Just remember, Frank, in the real world,
you are responsible for yours.

Liked I keep telling you xeno, religion is not about the "real world"
you so revere, but about an ideal world we try to bring about, called the
Kingdom of Heaven.

[XtremeHOHA]

Post by Pastor Frank

... the God of Christ is "a Spirit" (John 4:24)

& where is your evidence for any spirits, Frank?

... spirits are hard to pin down scientifically or otherwise, especially
one inhabiting Jesus and becoming visible in His actions.

So, why are you venerating a man who, according to you, isn't even
responsible for his own actions? Just remember, Frank, in the real world,
you are responsible for yours.

Liked I keep telling you xeno, religion is not about the "real world"
you so revere, but about an ideal world we try to bring about, called the
Kingdom of Heaven.

There should be no religion. Only acknowledgement of a Creator.

Hybrids live in a Creation. The assertively evolved and/or mutated, live
in a universe.

Which do you live in?

The 'Mother Wheel' put in place by Farrakhan aka Screwy Looey, was to
rival the Kingdom of the Almighty. And eXalt it higher in nature than the
Kingdom. The 'Mother Wheel' is not mentioned in the Koran. He made it
up. Loo claims he was brought there, and describes it for his brethren.
(Wild ass Muslims.)

There is Kingdom of Almighty God in Creation. And it is mentioned and
measured in Scripture. It measures 1500 cubic miles in size. Plenty of
room for His hosts/angels/eXtraterrestrials, and anyone else He chooses.
HaShem rules in His Creation on the highest throne of His Kingdom, from
beyond the natural.

HaShem is referred to as the YHVH Tzva'ot. The (Almighty) God of hosts.

Legions of diverse angels in their fields of knowledge. Omniscient,
superlative angels of the elohyim. Some deferred Supreme.

Satan made his debut in 1 Chronicles 21:1. He killed 70,000 Israelis
and the Almighty told him; "Enough. Put down your hand." Satan has
hands? Only in one's psyche.

"Satan" means 'adversary.' The knowledge of evil personified by of all
mankind. To use at whatever degree one chooses. Free will, run amok.
Look at the crap that comes from the psyche of those in Hollywood when
making films of good verses evil.

Satan is the persona of a being. A superlative angel. A chillul Ha-Shem
angel. Profaning the work, name, and character, of Almighty God.

That angel has a name.

His name was mentioned one time in Scripture.

He has fallen from the Kingdom.

And rose in the morning.

He has fallen to the Earth and wounded the nations.

And he said; "I will eXalt my throne above the throne of God.
I will be like the Almighty God."
(Lucifer. Isaias 12:14)

"....my throne above the throne of God......"

His personal throne. Lucifer, being a superlative angel of HaShem is talking
of his own lower throne in being deferred, a Supreme Being. "The" Supreme
Being in the Koran. The (Supreme Being) who is 'like' the Almighty God in
having his own nation. By cultivating and multiplying the seed he 'planted.'
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Bible/Genesis16.html

Only the Almighty cultivates and multiplies the seed.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Bible/Genesis17.html

The word 'siX' appears seven times in the Koran. One is capitalized. The
other siX are in siX separate verses where Allah praises himself for making
creation in siX days (and siX nights) in each of the siX verses. I, Me, the great
and powerful Allah. Allah the merciful....blah blah blah...etc...

The seventh 'SiX' is capitalized in a separate verse and speaks in the plural.
"And We did not rest."

"We." Lucifer and his legions of angels profaning the seventh day of HaShem.
Being like HaShem in the eXaltation of himself. Omniscient beings of flesh,
playing at being Omnipotent.

A reality and hierarchy beyond the the understanding of those who deny and
doubt, Almighty God, and His Creation.

~>
Twonky....
Aquarius.....the dawning of the age of.......enlightenment.......

You get a lot more than you bargained for

XtremeHOHA......Hybrid Of HaShem Almighty. Bred thru Cain & wife....
kiddush Ha-Shem......YAHU.....the New Jerusalem.....

A priest in MeXico City was asked his opinion on the amazing UFO flap
going on. His reply; "The (Almighty) God of hosts." My reply to his; "BINGO!"

There is a difference between Almighty God, and God.

One is the Omnipotent Creator. The Almighty God of Israel, HaShem. YAHU

The other is a Supreme Being. The Supreme Being, repeater of creation,
in the God of Islam, Allah.

Armageddon........baby....

[Pastor Frank]

I'm no scientist nor purport to be an egghead in any manner, but

isn't it

true that 1,500 years ago, humans thought that the Earth was the

centre of

the universe? When someone came up with the theory that we were just

another

body floating in space, I'm sure the majority laughed and ridiculed

him.

Turns out he was right...
And then around 500 years ago, didn't people believe the Earth was a

flat

plane? When someone came up with the theory that the planet was

indeed a

sphere, I'm sure the majority laughed and ridiculed him. Turns out he

was

right?
Now what if this guy claiming he found scientific evidence to proove

God's

existence is right? You all laugh and ridicule him now, but in 500

years,

who knows...

No, the ancients did not believe that the world is flat. Pictorial
evidence confirms this. The idea that the ancients thought the earth
was flat was promoted by an american last century, as a lie promoted
to discredit religion.
JJ

Religion doesn't need any help to be discredited. It does a fine job
of all by itself.

That is official atheist doctrine and should be posted to atheist NGs. I
will post you over to them.

[Pastor Frank]

What you are talking about has nothing to do with religion.

Christ

spoke

only in parables, full of psychological symbolism and metaphor, and

only

"fundamentalist" atheist "morons", who are perceptually and

philosophically

challenged and are proud of it, can't understand any of it. See

below

Whether Christ spoke only in parables or not I do not know. But the

Bible

contains more than what Jesus said. I am pretty sure about what I

said

concerning night and day. And yes reasonable interpreters of the

Bible

recognize such is not to be taken literally - it is meant as a sort of
'parable' to illustrate a point. They are of the type completely

removed

from issues such as if the earth is flat; the title of this thread ie

they

are concerned with faith being required to take you beyond the

assumptions

any theory must by its very nature inevitably have (of course that

such is

required is an issue - but a religious one - nothing to do with

science).

This again is an example of my contention - a correct evaluation of
religious issues always leads to areas irrelevant to science.

That is what I have been saying all along: Science doesn't deal with
values and the inerrancy of religion only concerns values. Whether

something

is good or evil, glorious or inglorious, etc. etc. cannot be termined

by

science, but is the sole concern of religion.

Note 'the height of arrogence'.
Good and evil are recognised by man in all walks of life - the control,
evidence of and accusation of, the forgiving of good and evil are also up

to

man, to claim they are the sole concern of religion is balderdash.

Religion

hijacked good and evil as part of it's promotional con. program - pure and
simple.
Next thing you idiots will be telling us there are no evil Christians!
How childish you get!!!!

You are proselytizing atheism again in our pristine Christian NGs.
Please post atheist doctrine and flames to atheist and flame NGs.
"arrogance" indeed!!!!! I will post you over to them.

[Mark K. Bilbo]

In our last episode

Post by Pastor Frank
You are proselytizing atheism again in our pristine Christian NGs.
Please post atheist doctrine and flames to atheist and flame NGs.
"arrogance" indeed!!!!! I will post you over to them.

You mean you'll start massive cross posting, blaming someone else for you
own behavior...

[Vic Sagerquist]

on 20 Jan 2005 in alt.atheism, Pastor Frank dropped trou, farted, whirled,

Post by Pastor Frank
You are proselytizing atheism again in our pristine Christian NGs.
Please post atheist doctrine and flames to atheist and flame NGs.
"arrogance" indeed!!!!! I will post you over to them.

Strange that you didn't trim the other groups, Frank. Oh, and BTW, can you
explain the difference between a newsgroup and a pristine newsgroup?
--
Vic Sagerquist
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