Atheism -- The Ultimate Moral Copout

Morals don't "evolve". We were all born with a measure of

empathy,

but learn to subdue it in favour of power over others.

You refer to the church and the leity here right franks?

You are such a hateful sob Bob. Where is the gun of the church, the
dollar, the law and police to have power? You are just talking out of your
hate, making no sense whatsoever. I think you miss-posted again, and forgot
to post your hate to flame groups. I will post you over to them.

Mark K. Bilbo

2005-01-13 03:30:02 UTC

In our last episode

Morals don't "evolve". We were all born with a measure of

empathy,

but learn to subdue it in favour of power over others.

You refer to the church and the leity here right franks?

You are such a hateful sob Bob. Where is the gun of the church, the
dollar, the law and police to have power? You are just talking out of your
hate, making no sense whatsoever. I think you miss-posted again, and
forgot to post your hate to flame groups. I will post you over to them.

Shrieks the hate monger Frank...

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger

Phÿltêr

2005-01-13 10:35:13 UTC

Morals don't "evolve". We were all born with a measure of

empathy,

but learn to subdue it in favour of power over others.

You refer to the church and the leity here right franks?

You are such a hateful sob Bob.

And you're such a smarmy cunt Frank.

--
Phÿltêr
AA#1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
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Pastor Frank

2005-01-12 19:37:38 UTC

(Well, this thread just showed up in alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,

and

cross posted to Hell and back, isn't it?)
- Is it possible be Morally Responsible without being a practitioner

any Religion?

Of course, provided one has any human decency. It is an evil person
who must be told it is bad to kill others.

Are you calling our soldiers "evil persons"? You are treading on
religious territory when talking about "human decency", "evil persons"

etc.
Human decency exists outside the realm of, and manay times in SPPITE of,
religion, moron!

You call our soldiers "evil persons" or support those who say so,
but call me "moron" instead of yourelf. Also, you again mis-post your flames
to the wrong NGs. i will post you over to some flame groups who love to have
you.

Arthur Mullard

2005-02-05 11:44:26 UTC

(Well, this thread just showed up in alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,

and

cross posted to Hell and back, isn't it?)
- Is it possible be Morally Responsible without being a practitioner

any Religion?

Of course, provided one has any human decency. It is an evil person
who must be told it is bad to kill others.

Are you calling our soldiers "evil persons"? You are treading on
religious territory when talking about "human decency", "evil persons"

etc.
Human decency exists outside the realm of, and manay times in SPPITE of,
religion, moron!

You're a bit of a control freak aren't you Frank. Have you thought of
getting therapy.

Pastor Frank

2005-01-21 01:28:22 UTC

It's because atheists only look for imperfections and when they meet
perfection they don't recognise it.

Why keep asking this question of Frank? Frank epitomises perfection as

can be

clearly seen by reading his laboriously boring repetitive posts.
Religion panders to the 'better than thou' syndrome,

You are sure dense Bob and forgetful. By now you should know THERE ARE
NO perfect people in heaven, only forgiven sinners. Therefore "better than
thou" doesn't cut it, and only gets you to hell.
Talk about repetitive posts ...sheeeeh!!! If you just want to spout
atheist nonsense, why do you keep posting here to our pristine Christian
NGs? I will post you over where your like-minded pals are.
Pastor Frank

2Tm:3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction
in righteousness

Pope Rudraigh

2005-01-21 19:09:44 UTC

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:28:22 +0800, "Pastor Frank"

It's because atheists only look for imperfections and when they meet
perfection they don't recognise it.

Why keep asking this question of Frank? Frank epitomises perfection as

can be

clearly seen by reading his laboriously boring repetitive posts.
Religion panders to the 'better than thou' syndrome,

And we'll post them right back at ya, fuckwit.

Cary Kittrell

2005-01-21 19:16:31 UTC

It's because atheists only look for imperfections and when they meet
perfection they don't recognise it.

Why keep asking this question of Frank? Frank epitomises perfection as

can be

clearly seen by reading his laboriously boring repetitive posts.
Religion panders to the 'better than thou' syndrome,

You are sure dense Bob and forgetful. By now you should know THERE ARE
NO perfect people in heaven, only forgiven sinners. Therefore "better than
thou" doesn't cut it, and only gets you to hell.

Well now, there's an interesting concept, intellectually speaking.

So, anyone in heaven may yet at some point commit sin? If so,
what happens to them?

Or does God take away your free will at time of entry, and
you are no longer capable of chosing to sin?

-- cary

bob young

2005-01-22 04:52:58 UTC

Post by Cary Kittrell

It's because atheists only look for imperfections and when they meet
perfection they don't recognise it.

Why keep asking this question of Frank? Frank epitomises perfection as

can be

clearly seen by reading his laboriously boring repetitive posts.
Religion panders to the 'better than thou' syndrome,

You are sure dense Bob and forgetful. By now you should know THERE ARE
NO perfect people in heaven, only forgiven sinners. Therefore "better than
thou" doesn't cut it, and only gets you to hell.

Well now, there's an interesting concept, intellectually speaking.
So, anyone in heaven may yet at some point commit sin? If so,
what happens to them?
Or does God take away your free will at time of entry, and
you are no longer capable of chosing to sin?

Well once anyone starts off down the road of superstition and mythology the lunacy sets in and progressively
becomes worse.

It's a bit like my dad used to tell me:

"Never lie as you will usually be found out"

Bob

Post by Cary Kittrell
-- cary

John Blake

2005-01-24 15:15:06 UTC

Post by Cary Kittrell

It's because atheists only look for imperfections and when they meet
perfection they don't recognise it.

Why keep asking this question of Frank? Frank epitomises perfection as

can be

clearly seen by reading his laboriously boring repetitive posts.
Religion panders to the 'better than thou' syndrome,

You are sure dense Bob and forgetful. By now you should know THERE ARE
NO perfect people in heaven, only forgiven sinners. Therefore "better than
thou" doesn't cut it, and only gets you to hell.

Well now, there's an interesting concept, intellectually speaking.
So, anyone in heaven may yet at some point commit sin? If so,
what happens to them?
Or does God take away your free will at time of entry, and
you are no longer capable of chosing to sin?

I wonder if you'll get answer to this? Somehow I think not............

Paul Duca

2005-01-29 22:06:27 UTC

It's because atheists only look for imperfections and when they meet
perfection they don't recognise it.

Why keep asking this question of Frank? Frank epitomises perfection as

can be

clearly seen by reading his laboriously boring repetitive posts.
Religion panders to the 'better than thou' syndrome,

You are sure dense Bob and forgetful. By now you should know THERE ARE
NO perfect people in heaven, only forgiven sinners.

Which is why they expect no other rewards there...

Paul

Pastor Frank

2005-01-29 08:59:54 UTC

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:01:07 +0800, "Pastor Frank"

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:00:52 +0800, "Pastor Frank"

doing the opposite from what Christ would do. Only perceptually and
philosophically challenged atheists can't tell the difference.

And do you think these Minions who profess Christ KNOW they are
working for Satan?
Of course they don't! You can ask ANY of them and they'll ALL tell
you that they are doing The Lord's Work.

That they do, no doubt and that's why they are Satan's minions. But

you

can easily check them out yourself. First get to know Jesus. A red letter

What

Would Jesus Do? If the person does something Jesus would not do and
justifies such action, then you know you are dealing with one of Satan's
minions.

Jesus says that Christians should not suffer a witch to live... That
is, Christians should kill witches.

Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post to
atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which might be
to your liking.

Mark K. Bilbo

2005-01-30 13:25:04 UTC

In our last episode

Post by Pastor Frank
Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post to
atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which might
be to your liking.

You mean you'll do massive, inappropriate cross posting in an attempt to
start yet another flame war...

unknown

2005-01-30 16:53:58 UTC

Post by Mark K. Bilbo
In our last episode

You mean you'll do massive, inappropriate cross posting in an attempt to
start yet another flame war...

That's how it reads to me. While some Satanists believe in a deity or force
(or "farce" as I like to call it), many do not or they "worship" themselves
as an ersatz god (still reads as Atheism in my book).

While we have debated the point from time-to-time (sometimes vigorously) in
alt.satanism, most of the time the threads aren't crossposted to other
uninterested newsgroups -- except by nutters that have an inordinate need
for attention. Likewise, I don't think most of the regular posters care much
about the theological leanings of one self-described Satanist or another
unless they're trying to sell something.

You'd think that Pastor Frank would just spend his time in hotel rooms
"ministering" to hookers like Rev. Swaggart and not wasting his time in
alt.satanism. In fact, if he does I'll gladly send him a six pack of
Thunderbird, a couple of joints, some Lube, and a copy of Song of Solomon
signed by Jehovah in the blood of Jesus.

Regards,

Harry Lime
www.harrylime.biz

Post by Mark K. Bilbo
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger

Mark K. Bilbo

2005-01-30 17:59:32 UTC

Post by unknown

Post by Mark K. Bilbo
In our last episode

Post by Pastor Frank
Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post
to atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which
might be to your liking.

You mean you'll do massive, inappropriate cross posting in an attempt to
start yet another flame war...

That's how it reads to me.

Only because it is. <g>

"Pastor" Frank is a troll with a history that spans several years. I
believe he was trolling alt.atheism before I arrived and I've been around
the ng almost seven years now. He's been doing this kind of thing for ages
now. His latest tactics of the quite nutty "I'll post you over" (whatever
the hell that's supposed to mean) seem to have arisen because he blames
"atheists" for his interesting need to frequently switch Usenet providers.

Post by unknown
While some Satanists believe in a deity or
force (or "farce" as I like to call it), many do not or they "worship"
themselves as an ersatz god (still reads as Atheism in my book).

Well, you have to keep in mind that Frank has his own "dictionary." In his
curious little mind, "atheist" means "anybody who disagrees with Frank."
I'm sure "Satanist" has just as personal (and incoherent) definition for
him. Probably "people who disagree with Frank." <g>

His use of "worship" seems to indicate something so broad and watered
down, stamp collecting probably qualifies. So if you spend more than five
minutes thinking about something, well, there you go!

Post by unknown
While we have debated the point from time-to-time (sometimes vigorously)
in alt.satanism, most of the time the threads aren't crossposted to other
uninterested newsgroups --

I can say in my own experience, we just don't get evangelizing Satanists
showing up in alt.atheism.

Post by unknown
except by nutters that have an inordinate need
for attention. Likewise, I don't think most of the regular posters care
much about the theological leanings of one self-described Satanist or
another unless they're trying to sell something.
You'd think that Pastor Frank would just spend his time in hotel rooms
"ministering" to hookers like Rev. Swaggart and not wasting his time in
alt.satanism. In fact, if he does I'll gladly send him a six pack of
Thunderbird, a couple of joints, some Lube, and a copy of Song of Solomon
signed by Jehovah in the blood of Jesus.

Actually, he'd probably be a much happier person if he just went back to
gardening.

Years ago I went Googling around to see what I could find. Frank is
apparently some old, retired coot who used to post to gardening ngs.
Started showing up in "philosophy" ngs and eventually religious ones.
Appointed himself a "missionary" to atheists. As time wore on, he ordained
himself and became increasing... different.

It's a, well, an indicative progression in someone of "advanced years" I'm
sad to say...

unknown

2005-01-30 18:19:43 UTC

Dear Mark:

Please see inside text:
--
I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming
feature.....Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the
introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined and
imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make half the
world fools and half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the
world. Thomas Jefferson

Post by unknown

Post by Mark K. Bilbo
In our last episode

Post by Pastor Frank
Where does Jesus say that? I think you are just making things up as you
go expressing your hate for Christ and His Christians. You should post
to atheist and flame groups. I will post you over to a selection which
might be to your liking.

You mean you'll do massive, inappropriate cross posting in an attempt to
start yet another flame war...

That's how it reads to me.

Only because it is. <g>
"Pastor" Frank is a troll with a history that spans several years. I
believe he was trolling alt.atheism before I arrived and I've been around
the ng almost seven years now. He's been doing this kind of thing for ages
now. His latest tactics of the quite nutty "I'll post you over" (whatever
the hell that's supposed to mean) seem to have arisen because he blames
"atheists" for his interesting need to frequently switch Usenet providers.

Well maybe some Atheists have complained about his bad behavior and gotten
his account yanked. This is understandable as there have been several fundy
Christers who used to disgrace alt.satanism with their special blend of
"Jesus loves you, but he's sending you to hell" crapola. We used to get a
lot of racist asswipes as well. Believe me, we have enough kooks there to
keep use entertained and don't need the additional input from the Christian
crowd.

Post by unknown
While some Satanists believe in a deity or
force (or "farce" as I like to call it), many do not or they "worship"
themselves as an ersatz god (still reads as Atheism in my book).

Since I've plonked him I guess I'll never know. LOL.

Post by Mark K. Bilbo
His use of "worship" seems to indicate something so broad and watered
down, stamp collecting probably qualifies. So if you spend more than five
minutes thinking about something, well, there you go!

Since I do my best thinking on the john, I'll make sure and worship under
the tutelage of Pastor Frank next time I take a healthy dump.

Post by unknown
While we have debated the point from time-to-time (sometimes vigorously)
in alt.satanism, most of the time the threads aren't crossposted to other
uninterested newsgroups --

I can say in my own experience, we just don't get evangelizing Satanists
showing up in alt.atheism.

Oh we do have a couple. Hope that the crosspost didn't open up a virtual
Pandora's Box. These charlatan's are pretty easily spotted by those who
have more than a high school education.

Actually, he'd probably be a much happier person if he just went back to
gardening.

Too bad he doesn't want to discuss gardening sans the religious dogma. I'm a
bit of a hobbyist myself.

Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Years ago I went Googling around to see what I could find. Frank is
apparently some old, retired coot who used to post to gardening ngs.
Started showing up in "philosophy" ngs and eventually religious ones.
Appointed himself a "missionary" to atheists. As time wore on, he ordained
himself and became increasing... different.
It's a, well, an indicative progression in someone of "advanced years" I'm
sad to say...

Or the need for an ongoing regimen of Aricept.

Regards,

Harry Lime
www.harrylime.biz

Kasper

2005-02-04 12:18:21 UTC

Poland is a stupid country becouse poland is weak in football match.

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:01:07 +0800, "Pastor Frank"

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:00:52 +0800, "Pastor Frank"

doing the opposite from what Christ would do. Only perceptually and
philosophically challenged atheists can't tell the difference.

And do you think these Minions who profess Christ KNOW they are
working for Satan?
Of course they don't! You can ask ANY of them and they'll ALL tell
you that they are doing The Lord's Work.

That they do, no doubt and that's why they are Satan's minions. But

you

can easily check them out yourself. First get to know Jesus. A red letter

What

Would Jesus Do? If the person does something Jesus would not do and
justifies such action, then you know you are dealing with one of Satan's
minions.

Jesus says that Christians should not suffer a witch to live... That
is, Christians should kill witches.

Arthur Mullard

2005-02-05 11:42:55 UTC