To John Ings: Paul's Invented Religion

[Pastor Frank]

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:09:54 +0800, "Pastor Frank"

You are spinning your wheels John, getting nowhere

I'm showing you up for what you are 'Pastor'. A hypocrite and a liar.
## I'm a Born Again Pagan!

There you are losing your cool again John, slipping and sliding into
your favourite trashing and flaming mode, right in our pristine Christian
NGs, where everyone does his best to live up to the ideal of Jesus Christ.
I keep telling you John, if you get that apparently irresistible
trashing and flaming urge come over you. Post it to atheist and flame
groups. II will help you as much as I can to find some suitable ones who
will love your approach.

[Pastor Frank]

John - you need to find some afterlife case histories of people who
went to hell and came back. All the one's I've seen quickly converted,
and more than a few are now pastors.

The phenomena of out-of-body experiences and past life recollections
need proper scientific investigation before they become evidence of
anything. I agree they need looking into, but anecdotal evidev\ce
doesn't cut it.

You still don't understand, that hell is not just "after life", for
as
the Kingdom of God can overtake those in Christ, the kingdom of hell can
overtake reprobates at ANY time. Look around you, you will have no
difficulty spotting those in hell, for they "wail" complaints
incessantly,
and "gnash teeth" in furious anger.

===>And YOU are the PRIME EXAMPLE of that, Sheepherder,
lying fake "pastor" Frank!
Your statement above is witness against you!
It is YOU who ""wails" complaints incessantly,
and "gnash teeth" in furious anger. -- L.

At least I post Christ and His glory to Christian NGs, where but
miss-post hate here, which should go to atheist and flame groups. I will
help you find some suitable ones, who will love your approach.

[Pastor Frank]

Does this mean that all the authors you quote can't be trusted because
they are using a compilation of second, third, fouthhand information
based on past events?

Depends on their motivation. Are they recounting dry facts of history
or selling a religion?

Get Saved John. It will purge you mind of the
incessant need to debunk.

But I will have to lie to myself thumper! I just can't do that!

Your debunking is not scepticism, but an endless "wail" of complaints
in
the "outer darkness" of hell. Now you know why hell is "eternal", for you
know now already, that you will keep doing your trashing and looking for
lies and liars for all eternity.

===>What for?
He already found YOU, the biggest LIAR of them all! -- L.

That is flaming, Libertine and should go to flame groups. I will post
you over to where flaming is a way of life.

[Pastor Frank]

That's atheist doctrine. Please post atheism to atheist NGs. I will post
you over to them.

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:32:54 +0800, "Pastor Frank"

Iwould ask that question of your Lord for one. "Why if you love
humanity so much Lord, do you leave Satan running loose? Why do you
not get involved when men like Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot are doing
their thing? Do you really care?"

God is you dad in heaven, and He cannot get involved for the same
reason
your dad on earth cannot get directly involved in your fights with the
school yard bully and his gang.

Non-sequitur. My dad wasn't omniscient or omnipotent, God is supposed
to be.

It's up to you to organize an effective remedy to all bullying.

It was up to the little children that died in the Nazi gas chambers to
organize an effective remedy?

However God will assist you indirectly by opening
doors to you and the ears and minds of the right people as well.

No he won't 'Pastor'. No such aid has ever been demonstrated.
## For Holy People, however it runs, Endeth in wholly Slave
Rudyard Kipling

[Pastor Frank]

Actually you will find a lot of psychology in religious philosophy. In
this case the contrast betwen heaven and hell is the focus one has. It's
the positive vs. negative divide. One mines for gold and is joyfully
expectant and when finding a nugget occasionally, jubilant. The other
mines for dross, complaining all the way and completely blind to the
gold he digs up. He always knows what's wrong with the world, but is
unable to see anything that's right, ever.

Pot, kettle, black. Nobody is stopping you from indulging in your
delusions by rejecting them. So, what are YOU complaining about? Have
your pie in the sky. Eat your pie in the sky. Don't blame anyone else if
it's substanceless tripe. My lack of belief doesn't have anything to do
with your recognition of your own absurdity. Isn't that what the real
problem is, Frank?

Do your "rejecting" in the proper NGs, not in our pristine religious,
spiritual and philosophical ones. I will post you over to where your pals
are.

[Pastor Frank]

Actually you will find a lot of psychology in religious philosophy. In
this case the contrast betwen heaven and hell is the focus one has.
It's
the positive vs. negative divide. One mines for gold and is joyfully
expectant and when finding a nugget occasionally, jubilant. The other
mines for dross, complaining all the way and completely blind to the
gold he digs up. He always knows what's wrong with the world, but is
unable to see anything that's right, ever.

Pot, kettle, black. Nobody is stopping you from indulging in your
delusions by rejecting them. So, what are YOU complaining about? Have
your pie in the sky. Eat your pie in the sky. Don't blame anyone else if
it's substanceless tripe. My lack of belief doesn't have anything to do
with your recognition of your own absurdity. Isn't that what the real
problem is, Frank?

THATS the real problem

Not a problem at all. There are News Groups specially for the purpose of
listing all the things you disbelieve in, and do it at your heart's content.
Here in our Pristine Christian NGs we list the things we DO believe in. Do
you mind? So please post your disbeliefs to the appropriate groups and stop
yer trollin' already. I will help you find some.

[Steve Mading]

Post by Pastor Frank
Here in our Pristine Christian NGs we list the things we DO believe in. Do
you mind? So please post your disbeliefs to the appropriate groups and stop
yer trollin' already. I will help you find some.

You're the one who keeps starting these crossposting, you
lying evil hypocrite.

[Phÿltêr]

Post by Steve Mading

Post by Pastor Frank
Here in our Pristine Christian NGs we list the things we DO believe in.
Do you mind? So please post your disbeliefs to the appropriate groups
and stop yer trollin' already. I will help you find some.

You're the one who keeps starting these crossposting, you
lying evil hypocrite.

zzzzzzzz HUH?? Someone mention Frank?

[St. Jackanapes]

In alt.flame.jesus.christ Steve Mading barfed up...

Post by Steve Mading

Post by Pastor Frank
Here in our Pristine Christian NGs we list the things we DO believe in. Do
you mind? So please post your disbeliefs to the appropriate groups and stop
yer trollin' already. I will help you find some.

You're the one who keeps starting these crossposting, you
lying evil hypocrite.

So quit replying to him, you dumb fuck!