The God belief challenge

[Pastor Frank]

Date written: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:34:00 -0400

You claimed to live by "a set of universally known values and principles
by
which society lives" and I simply exposed those known values and
principles as
immoral, and therefore exposed you are immoral. The only way you can get
out of
this one, besides your usual lies, is to admit your mistake in claiming
to get
your moral values from society.

Btw that is secular humanism, of which Communism is the epitome.

Wrong again. Nothing mentioned in the quote above was even remotely
related to
humanism or Communisim.

Both get their values from "society" and so by the way did Charles
Manson, or so he claims. To claim that getting one's values from society is
NOT secular humanism nor communism, you need to prove your point and tell us
from where secular humanism get its values from instead. Just denying every
and all of my statements without correction is a mindless refuter's game,
and I won't play that with you.
i think you are wearing out your welcome here in our pristine Christian
NGs, and should move over to where your pals hang out, and with whom you
will spend all eternity, UNLESS you approach Jesus Christ with a repentant
heart. I post you over to a selection of them. I'm sure you will feel right
at home.

[Pastor Frank]

Need I remind you that these are Christian NGs and that we are not
concerned with reality, but with ideals which improve upon reality, right
up
to Christ's Kingdom of Heaven?

That logical fallacy has already been exposed more than once before with
your ideals have made reality a worse place to live, not better.

You are not telling us how or what, but merely contradicting
automatically. That's refuting without offering anything in return. You
would do better posting to where friends are. I will post you over to them.

[Pastor Frank]

The failures in class are not representative of the course
content,
irrespective of your assertions to the contrary. See below
The most important, yet most ignored commandments of Christ, which
would
make war, if not ALL of man's inhumanity to man extinct, nay totally
THE ROYAL LAW OF CHRIST
**Jesus in Mk 12:30: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy
heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy
strength: this is the first commandment.
**31: And the second is alike, namely this: Thou shalt love thy
neighbour
as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
**Jesus in Mat 22:40 "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two
commandments."
THE GOLDEN RULE OF CHRIST
Jesus in Matt. 7:12: "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would
that
men
should do to you, do ye even so to them...."

I think it's a bit sad that you blame the student and not the teacher.

Yes. People like you would convict a parent for the crimes of his
children. A good thing you are not in power. Please post your hate to
hate
groups. Thanks.

What a pathetic assumption.

That summarises you invariable response to everything anyone says here.
Please post to where your fellow contrarian refuters hang out. I will post
you over to some. I'm sure you will feel right at home there.

[Virgil]

Post by Pastor Frank

Date written: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:34:00 -0400

You claimed to live by "a set of universally known values and principles
by
which society lives" and I simply exposed those known values and
principles as
immoral, and therefore exposed you are immoral. The only way you can get
out of
this one, besides your usual lies, is to admit your mistake in claiming
to get
your moral values from society.

Btw that is secular humanism, of which Communism is the epitome.

Wrong again. Nothing mentioned in the quote above was even remotely
related to
humanism or Communisim.

Both get their values from "society" and so by the way did Charles
Manson, or so he claims. To claim that getting one's values from society is
NOT secular humanism nor communism, you need to prove your point and tell us
from where secular humanism get its values from instead. Just denying every
and all of my statements without correction is a mindless refuter's game,
and I won't play that with you.

Why not? You play it with others.

Post by Pastor Frank
i think you are wearing out your welcome here in our pristine Christian
NGs

Then stop posting here in alt.atheism, and you can clean up your own
nests, as we will have nothing respond to.